tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post2744133997180181526..comments2024-01-09T01:24:03.656+00:00Comments on TORCHWOOD.tv: Torchwood Lives!Anthony Garnonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03455857962928335916noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-42073090032208253942009-07-26T19:12:09.098+01:002009-07-26T19:12:09.098+01:00I've seen COE and i didn't feel Ianto'...I've seen COE and i didn't feel Ianto's death like i did with Owen simply because i think the late doctor brought more to the team (fun, sarcasm and obviously sex). Burn Gorman has been one of my favourite actors for years. But i felt like the team is vanishing with his death and that's why Jack became so twisted. But i believe Tw will be back - THE UK VERSION IF YOU PLEASECarlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14221080796466517932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-62185574855374959502009-07-26T19:01:11.229+01:002009-07-26T19:01:11.229+01:00Please let's hope the US don't get their h...Please let's hope the US don't get their hand on Torchwood because they will ruin everything TW means with the hollywood's spetacularity! Let's hopeCarlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14221080796466517932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-25017970731234407312009-07-26T07:38:04.572+01:002009-07-26T07:38:04.572+01:00Why are so many people pissed about the sexual amb...Why are so many people pissed about the sexual ambiguity. This is the 21st century for gods sake, get over it. I'm sure you didn't mind the episode with Tosh muggin down on another woman, or the episode where Gwen was tongue dancing with the girl in the cell. I'm a straight man, and seeing guys kiss doesn't make me that uncomfortable. It's part of Jacks character and always has been since his first appearance in Dr Who. I think the reason they made Jacks and Lantos relationship so much closer was to add to the drama when he died and to show Jacks emotional side. It balanced out his dark side when he killed his grandson. It made Jack a more rounded character and gave him more depth. Also I want to correct one thing in my last post. I re-watched the us DR Who movie and it was actually good. Of course it was made by the us and the BBC.lokihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04687730819731673665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-89388566294242214242009-07-26T05:42:53.966+01:002009-07-26T05:42:53.966+01:00What to say about 5 hrs of lame BBC drama,come on ...What to say about 5 hrs of lame BBC drama,come on now ,how unrealistic was that.....for example<br />The hero does nothing!<br />they recorded all of those meetings using the contact lenses and then poof ,decide not to use it,what a waste of plot<br />then the civil servant kills his daughters and himself ,lame...lame<br />then Jacks daughter will sacrifice millions to save one boy...lame<br />Also how did the government know that we didnt stand a chance against this one alian.....my faith in BBC shows took a drastic turn for the worse,good production value but suspend all thoughts of realistic plotsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-41742886254574860182009-07-26T00:39:24.307+01:002009-07-26T00:39:24.307+01:00A Torchwood without Jack isn't worth watching....A Torchwood without Jack isn't worth watching. I can't imagine watching something with a team led by Gwen would be anything other than annoying. The comment way up there that said Gwen suffered the most made me laugh, though. I don't see how anyone could think that, unless they think that surviving without so much as a scratch and getting to go home to your new little house with your living, unharmed husband and have babies is worse than being dead or consumed by guilt and grief. <br /><br />I thought Children of Earth was utterly brilliant, but I can't say I enjoyed it by the end. It left me feeling kind of sick, for various reasons. Lots of people are saying that it's realistic, that Torchwood is a deadly job and people are going to die. I don't disagree with that. However, Torchwood is also a tv show and there comes a point when the line between "Ooh, the characters are in mortal peril" and "The characters are cannon fodder to be used whenever the producers want extra drama" is crossed. Three of five characters killed in six episodes? Crosses that line. There comes a point when a viewer becomes too wary to let themselves care about the characters. Why would I let myself become emotionally invested in characters Russell T Davies creates? This is what happens to them. And if I can't care about the characters, there's no point in watching the shows.<br /><br />If Jack comes back I'll give a potential fourth season a try, out of respect for Jack and John Barrowman. Otherwise...new cast, American version, whatever....not a chance.Shannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05295638506691641877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-63512340648271334602009-07-24T09:32:21.174+01:002009-07-24T09:32:21.174+01:00I just watched CoE day 5 and I also have mixed fee...I just watched CoE day 5 and I also have mixed feelings about it. The story was great and it was done really well, but I'm not sure about the ending. If this is the end of the show then I think the ending was brilliant, but if not then they really screwed up. Also as far as us Yanks getting a hold of it (yes, I live in Texas) well if we do, that's what the off button on my TV is for. We did good with The Office so mabey there's hope. But I did see the DR. Who and the RED DWARF that we tried, so probably not. Oh well. In closing I want to that you Brits for giving me a reason to turn my TV on. Thank God for BBC America.lokihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04687730819731673665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-55274286094001118852009-07-23T15:11:00.075+01:002009-07-23T15:11:00.075+01:00Good sci-fi, but they are about to
lose me with th...Good sci-fi, but they are about to<br />lose me with the whole pro-homo agenda. I have had enough of watching 2 men burn for each other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-68986474352527504962009-07-22T08:54:41.748+01:002009-07-22T08:54:41.748+01:00I have to wonder what the writers were thinking wh...I have to wonder what the writers were thinking when they broke the story for CoE. It's not drama. It's <i>melodrama</i>. With plot holes large enough to drive a fleet of lorries through (I'd go on about those, but this would turn into a dissertation). Personally, I'm hoping that the entire series gets retconned into non-existence because I agree with others who have said that CoE is bad fanfic. Like <i>ff.net</i> bad fanfic. I thought it started out strong, but things started to fall apart for me in part three with far too much exposition, and then they lost me completely due to too much redonc in part four. I didn't even watch part five (though I've heard what happens and it doesn't make me want to change my mind about watching).<br /><br />Though it was only the tip of the iceberg of my disappointment, my biggest problem was Ianto being killed off. I thought that was an absurd choice and a huge mistake on the part of the writers (it just cemented in my mind how much they've jumped the shark with the CoE storyline). I think Ianto as a character has always been short-changed and marginalized (with the exception of "Cyberwoman" and maybe "Out of the Rain") and the Jack/Ianto relationship with him. Do they really expect us to believe that *two years* into their relationship they are <i>still</i> having non-discussions about whether or not they're a "couple"? Because I sure don't buy it. It felt forced and like the writers were just coming up with <i>something</i> for them to be awkward over... as <i>filler</i> or something equally patronizing. I appreciated that we finally got to find out more about Ianto's life with the scenes with his sister, but overall, I still feel it was too little, too late, since they just Tasha Yar'd him anyway five minutes later. Fail, RTD, major fail.RaeShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01841066344380185598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-2890267555630663022009-07-18T03:56:32.418+01:002009-07-18T03:56:32.418+01:00(with spellng and grammer corrections, should chec...(with spellng and grammer corrections, should check in future)<br />nobody should be surprised about Jacks actions regarding giving up a child to save the world as he has done it before in Season 1,Episode 5 Small Worlds. Although I think the way in which this senario was wrtiien in COE was a better story line. I too was sad to see Ianto killed of seeing how he and Jacks 'GAY' relationship was developing, athough both it seems are bi-sexual anyway with both having had relationships with women in the show. Jack sexuality had always been rather ambiguous, so you never really knew which way he would swing.It was a bit of a shock too see such a dark storyline in a TV series as usually something happens to make eveything alright again, in a way it was satisfying to see that did not happen. I almost expected The Doctor come riding in on a white chargr to save the day, seems almost odd he didnt seeng how its his responsibilty to look after planet earth, the Tardis always delivering him there whenever (whenever) there was a dire crisis, It was will interstiing to see if Jack does surface in the new Doctor Who series.kebo9520https://www.blogger.com/profile/07489722338948758356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-69225790865380286232009-07-18T03:51:48.013+01:002009-07-18T03:51:48.013+01:00nobody should be surprised about Jacks actions reg...nobody should be surprised about Jacks actions regarding giving up a child to save the world as he has done it before in Season 1,Episode 5 Small Worlds. Although I think the way in which this senario was wrtiien in COE was a better story line. I too was sad to se ianto killed of seing how he and Jacks GAY relationship was developinh, athough both it seems aer bi-sexual anyway with both having had relationship with women in the show. Jack sexuallyity had always been rather ambiguous, so you never really knew which way he wwould swing.It was a bit of a shock too see such a dark stroyline in a TV series as usually something happens to amke eveything alrigh again, in a way it was satisfying to see that not happen. I almost expecting The Doctor come riding in on a white chargr to save the day, ses almost odd he didnt seeng how its his responsibilty to look after panet earth, the Tardis always delivering him there whenever there was a dire crisis, It was will interstiing to see if Jack does surface int eh new Doctor Who series.kebo9520https://www.blogger.com/profile/07489722338948758356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-40473301292533001182009-07-17T15:08:15.305+01:002009-07-17T15:08:15.305+01:00ive just watched the torchwood de-classified secti...ive just watched the torchwood de-classified section of the children of earth dvd.RTD gives some pretty posotive hints that that this isnt the end of torchwood.god,please god let it be true!!.ive only been able to watch day's 1,2 and 3.the last two day's leave me in a state of utter depression!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-61491342964845346262009-07-16T07:42:09.428+01:002009-07-16T07:42:09.428+01:00Oh yeah.. And...
BBC: Take the hint from RTD. You...Oh yeah.. And...<br /><br />BBC: Take the hint from RTD. You don't have to kill the show, but make sure its left to rest where it is meant to lie.Dan; Cleveland, OHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-77857237765587644502009-07-16T07:39:56.094+01:002009-07-16T07:39:56.094+01:00Wow. Just.. Wow.
Lots of flip offs to RTD on here...Wow. Just.. Wow.<br /><br />Lots of flip offs to RTD on here... I'll go the other way with some salutes:<br /><br />RTD: Way to grow up the franchises!<br /><br />RTD: Thank you for showing homosexuals as people, not characters. You've played it "safe" with humor too often in the past.<br /><br />RTD: Thanks for relearning how to be 'epic'. You brushed off the cheese of your DW #4.<br /><br />RTD: You didn't have to kill Ianto, but you left him to rest where he was meant to lie.Dan; Cleveland, OHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-38823965510253394662009-07-15T20:28:37.102+01:002009-07-15T20:28:37.102+01:00A few quick notes...I am from across the Pond in A...A few quick notes...I am from across the Pond in America and I'll tell you if the US gets their own TW I WILL NOT WATCH IT...I learned my lesson when I watched the last episode of the US "Life on Mars"<br /><br />As far as CoE, I felt it was a good series. We got more depth with Jack and ianto's life then we ever had before....<br /><br />Plot holes were all over the place but again JB and the whole cast eased me through it and made me care.<br /><br />I would like a 4th series. I think that Gwen will have the hub with a new cast and Jack will return when RTD feels his Character is ready.<br /><br />You brits have to help us by keeping good SciFi on like DW or TW. Cause outside of BSG we yanks can't make scifi worth crap in the last decade.Jameshttp://www.facebook.com/jerseyjamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-10623072604516731942009-07-14T23:23:47.217+01:002009-07-14T23:23:47.217+01:00I agree with Becca's comments. Ianto and other...I agree with Becca's comments. Ianto and other unnecesary, shocking deaths aside, I don't think CoE is anywhere as good as people are making out to be.<br /><br />Too many plotholes, too much stupidity on the part of the plot devices- sorry, I mean characters, to get the story to move alone at all.<br /><br />I won't even get into how completely derivative the story was, that would take pages and pages.<br /><br />I'm sure people will get over the cheap shocks some day and see all what is wrong with CoE.<br /><br />As a Torchwood fan, I never felt CoE was Torchwood, so I consider it over with Exit Wounds, it was good while it lasted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-65276859861441885442009-07-14T11:47:43.426+01:002009-07-14T11:47:43.426+01:00CoE was fantasic! Hated the ending, but have to s...CoE was fantasic! Hated the ending, but have to say, that I won't get too upset just now. I have to believe that Jack and Gwen will be back, with the last episodes of DW with David Tennant paving the way for that. And as for Ianto - he can't stay dead! Gutted that Owen and Tosh are gone, but the show cannot possibly continue without Jack, Gwen and Ianto. Fans of the show are in love with the characters and relational dynamics between them, changing the characters would kill Torchwood! Can't wait for Series 4!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-66260989172686985412009-07-14T04:58:47.703+01:002009-07-14T04:58:47.703+01:00I could hardly stay awake through series three. I...I could hardly stay awake through series three. I don't understand how you could object to Jack's change of character but still think this was a good piece of drama.<br /><br />Ianto's death and Jack's going mercenary weren't the fundamental problem with this series. I just didn't care that Ianto died or that Jack killed his grandson because I was bored to tears by the plot. The problem is that it wasn't Torchwood! It wasn't slick, or sexy, or fun, or scary.<br /><br />It was slow, dull, and moralizing. Sure, lots of characters were put into totally contrived moral dilemmas where they behaved like monsters - but somehow even that managed to come across as preachy. Not moral complexity - just stupid.<br /><br />And for those who keep referring to Spock: let's all remember, Spock sacrificed HIMSELF.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-31361142880298250922009-07-13T19:54:35.904+01:002009-07-13T19:54:35.904+01:00jacks gonna come back to earth and build a new hub...jacks gonna come back to earth and build a new hub were the origanal hub was and gwen and jack are going to rectuit new membersholly fordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14715378689228874042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-36839428852093263982009-07-13T08:39:19.395+01:002009-07-13T08:39:19.395+01:00As Spock said "We cannot sacrifice the one fo...As Spock said "We cannot sacrifice the one for the good of the many" not an exact quote but you get the drift.For me the action of Captain jack Harkness and the earthlings was indeed the end of the world "as we know it" certainly the end of civilization. It waa truly the thin edge of the wedge and the question beg "What will we sacrifice next to save ourselves" our humanity itself. great episodes but deeply troubling. Although well written I feel as though writers could have come up with a better way to finish off a series, certainly one that didn't sacrifice our humanity.kebo9520https://www.blogger.com/profile/07489722338948758356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-87247888713377671102009-07-13T04:33:13.628+01:002009-07-13T04:33:13.628+01:00I posted this in a couple of other places already:...I posted this in a couple of other places already:<br /><br />Having Jack leave is a setup for the David Tennant send off. More and more I think about it; more and more its seemingly like a useful plot device. <br /><br />I don't get why people complain why they think this protrays the good Captain in a bad light. Jack made choices and dealt with the consequences. If there was another way to have beaten the 456; he would have found it. In the end; it was the only way and the only other alternative would have been far worse; both for Stephen and the human race. There is a line from Dumbledore in the deathly Hallows which goes something like: "some times there are times when meaningful death is better than a useless life." <br /><br />Getting back to RTD: the open secret about the return of Rose for the send off means that the gateway to Pete's world will open up again.<br />Could something like what happened to Jackie and Pete happen to Jack and Ianto? RTD has a noticable romantic side to his writing. <br /><br />Even if there is no device for bringing Ianto back; it comes back to one fundamental point that was made by RTD when Torchwood was launched: in torchwood's line of work; people die. He wanted to have some more of the realism that is not possible for Dr Who given its target audience.<br /><br />I still miss Tosh and I will continue to miss Ianto but that is life. People die; plain and simpleJim Ramberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00540118190649867958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-20737880349460856482009-07-12T20:42:46.856+01:002009-07-12T20:42:46.856+01:00I have a feeling the world in which TW exists will...I have a feeling the world in which TW exists will be reset, just like it was after series 1. Which would be very irritating and lessen COE's impact. <br /><br />And in response to having Jack walk away from Ianto - that could have been such a great scene! Also, it opens up new possibilities for the character - Ianto would be so heartbroken and bitter - we could have seen a darker side to him next series. Plus, I always wanted to see what he's like taking a more dominant role in a (different) relationship - i reckon he'd be quite controlling in his own way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-4651327696096390542009-07-12T15:22:27.526+01:002009-07-12T15:22:27.526+01:00Hey Richard,
To answer your question about Martha ...Hey Richard,<br />To answer your question about Martha and Mickey, Mickey basically wasn't mentioned and we just have to assume that Gwen might not have known about him (as he wasn't shown to the Torchwood team in any of the video conference things during Stolen Earth)or wasn't contactable. As for Martha, Jack tried contacting her in the first ep of CoE, but she was on 'holiday' and couldn't be contacted. Why she didn't try to contact Jack when all the children of the earth were affected no one knows. Hope that answers your question :)Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00392535465909077781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-35483014217463433282009-07-12T15:18:24.239+01:002009-07-12T15:18:24.239+01:00OK... Hearing a lot of people complain that it'...OK... Hearing a lot of people complain that it's no longer the show they fell in love with with. It's an understandable complaint but I feel that it's an inevitable complaint for any show that runs for longer than a couple of seasons. I'd rather they changed things up, even if it results in more than a few unwelcome losses from the cast, if it means that they can revitalise the show. I have no doubt that Torchwood will return, the ratings for CoE will see to that. <br /><br />I wonder if anyone can answer a question for me... I heard that the actors that play Martha and Mickey were unavailable for filming which is why they don't appear in CoE but I don't remember an explanation in the story for their abscence. It was pretty well set-up in Doctor Who for these characters to appear in Torchwood so I'm wondering if I missed a line of dialogue that explained their abscence. If it wasn't explained then presumably Gwen could contact them and we would have our basis for Torchwood's team for Season 4?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16061272144613200124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-88738246475775320482009-07-12T15:16:24.773+01:002009-07-12T15:16:24.773+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16061272144613200124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17981668.post-70840671806019384382009-07-12T15:08:46.753+01:002009-07-12T15:08:46.753+01:00I´m from Portugal and only a year ago I discovered...I´m from Portugal and only a year ago I discovered Torchwood's universe. I'm completly under a spell. I've pre-ordered the CoE dvd at play.com and after a weeks it's finnaly coming.<br />I know probably you won't believe me but, I have been bitting my nails to endure the stress of all spoilers around lol (this is not a critic). But at the end of the last season, the team lost two elements - Owen was my favourite because he was a scared little boy, trying to play it tough - and it was hard to watch that<br />I haven't seen any episode or spoilers because i want to see all fresh and new.<br />In my country the series was broadcasted on SIC RADICAL network, wich shows very alternative kind of programmes, but they only showed the first series so far. i was so into it that i bought the other one... and now I'm waiting for the third series.<br /><br />regarding the fact torchwood is dead??? definitly not because it's a cult now and even if it doesen't come into the air for another year, thrn we'll have something to look forward and i know it's gonna be AMAZING!!!<br /><br />Well off to work now and forgive my english or any mistakes I might have done.<br /><br />Love the site...byeCarlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14221080796466517932noreply@blogger.com