Wednesday, July 04, 2007

No golden ticket for Torchwood.TV

Despite my pleas it doesn't look like we will be granted admission to the Torchwood panel at the Beverly Hills Hilton next week. The US launch event is being put on by the Television Critics Association exclusively for it's membership of full-time TV critics. Thanks to Lianne of OG for spotting that the panel will include John Barrowman, Julie Gardner and BBCAmerica president Garth Ancier. Steven Moffat will also be there as part of a Jekyll panel.

The site Premium Hollywood has said they will be blogging about the TCA press tour on a daily basis, or you can follow the links of members on the TCA homepage to see who covers the panel. As for me, I suppose i will just have to stake out the hotel.

In other news, John Barrowman will be back in time from his US excursion to be a presenter on The Friday Night Project on Channel 4 on the 27th.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thanks for not crediting people who find the information first again at OG. Learn some netiquette.

curls said...

The information I think your referring to is exactly who is going to be on the panel. As to there being a TCA Torchwood panel featuring JB and others, that information has been out there for over a month now. Sorry if you felt slighted, I have updated it now.

Heidi8 said...

If John et al are going to be in LA next week, I wonder if any of them will be at the Harry Potter premiere on Sunday night. I'm covering it for my website - fictionalley.org / spell-cast.com - and if they're there, we'll try and get some questions answered about S2 of TW, if you want. Email me if you want to discuss this more, kurly?

Lucy Milverton said...

I love Harry Potter!!! Def. try to ask some questions if you possibly can.

Cheers Kurly for trying to get in...you could always go in under cover!!!

Anonymous said...

Any word yet on who will be at Comic Con in San Diego? Is that still a go?

Anonymous said...

Any idea who will be going to Comic Con in San Diego? Is that still a go? Other than that one website, I've yet to see a confirmation

curls said...

Well as JB won't be at ComicCon and it looks like no other actors are coming out, I'm guessing it will be Julie Gardner and other Beeb bigwigs in San Diego.

If the LA Harry Potter premier is this Sunday then they probably won't be in town yet.

Lucy Milverton said...

Any idea how you get to hear of these type of events but in the UK?

Anonymous said...

I have wanted John Barrowman on the Friday Night Project since forever! This is gonna be even better than the David Tennant one!

Anonymous said...

don't worry lianne...all their "news" comes from other people and other sites.

curls said...

Well we don't make up the news ourselves if thats what you want. When we get it from our sources or readers we print it, or we compile and report on the news thats out there. This comment sounds like it is coming from somebody who wants there to be some sort of competition between fansites, We're just trying to write a fun little blog with the information we can get, nothing less nothing more.

We don't have the resources to send out a team of reporters to break every story, but I think our track record shows we have been the first on the scene on several occasions. Plus, the last time we were breaking big news, we had both fans and the BBC on our back for spoiling things, so you can't win.

We're far from perfect and If you post some constructive criticism about improvements we can make we're always listening.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for editing, but while it was known JB was going to TCA, you didn't know about the other guests until you saw my post. I don't know why it was so difficult to mention you saw it on OG in the first place.

I wouldn't have mentioned it but this isn't the first time you or your staff have done this to OG posters (and this is #2 for me), including taking images without crediting people (not just 'real news' sites) until they contacted you.

I don't think the anonymous poster was trying to start a fansite war, just not happy about your lack of crediting. I'm sure in your RL you wouldn't be happy if your hard work was given to a co-worker who didn't do the work.

If you want to get the site invites to press events like TCA, you'll need to raise your journalistic standards like crediting people/sites who locate it first.

I do find it interesting you don't link to Outpost Gallifrey considering it is one of, if not the biggest Doctor Who sites around. Nor the livejournal community where some of your news is also gleaned from.

Nor mention the Friday Night Project news was announced on John's official site first.

Anycase some constructive criticism from someone from the news biz - karma's a bitch. ;)

curls said...

Well from my point of view, it is often difficult to know where something popped up first or who found it first on this vast WWW. A perfect example of that is your statement that I should have credited John's Official Site with the news about his appearance on the Friday Night Project. I didn't in fact get that information from there at all. A reader sent me an email mentioning it on July 3rd and I put it up on the calendar that day. But either way, the announcement of a TV appearance doesn't need a source. You generally don't see articles previewing TV shows getting bogged down by determining where the first place online was that announced the show.

Yes, you did find a place online that mentioned exactly who was going to be on the TCA panel and your link to it, was indeed how I found out about it, so yes that is worth a thanks. But as far as the "journalistic standards" you refer to regarding sources and crediting, the source is the actual Premium Hollywood article itself, which I had linked to. So from a personable fan community stance, I do agree you deserve a thanks for alerting me and other folks to the site, but that is separate from journalistic crediting standards.

I'm not sure what the other examples you are refering to regarding uncrediting people are so I will leave that alone, but I will just say personally I have always tried to give credit where it is due. As a rule, a thanks generally goes to folks who find something interesting, and a credit certainly goes to somebody who directly gets a scoop.

As to why we don't have links to OG or Live Journal on the front page. It's nothing personal, mainly because we have always tried to limit the links to just a few. We had Live Journal in there up until a month or so ago and they were a great site for news for the longest time. However it got to the point that it just seemed like a fanfiction community with a bit of news squeezed in. Maybe I'm not looking in the right place, I don't know. But I personally haven't got any news from LJ in probably a year now.

As OJ is the biggest WHO site I'm not sure why they need a link from us. Their Torchwood News section is very inconsistent and seldom first to the mark. And as you can't get into the forum without being a member it is a problem in general to link to the OG forum when many readers will get an error screen saying they have to be a member.

While I don't agree with your tone implying our journalistic standards are low, I do know there is always room for improvement, so I will keep your message in mind. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Well put, Kurly.